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“It’s Just a Game” – A Second Interview with Survivor’s Lill

by David Bloomberg -- 12/23/2003
Lill was voted out early but came back and made it into the Final 2. She definitely did things differently the second time around. In our second interview with her, she tells us what changed, why she brought Sandra to the Final 2, what the Outcast Tribal Council was like, why she thinks she lost, and much more!

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Lill was voted out early but came back as an Outcast with a new zest to play the game – even if it meant lying. In RealityNewsOnline’s second interview with her, we look back at some of the things she said in our first interview and how things changed. Lill tells us about fan reaction, what she thinks of those who say she shouldn’t have lied while wearing the Scout uniform, her answers at the final Tribal Council, and more!

RealityNewsOnline: Hello again, Lill, and thanks for answering these questions from RealityNewsOnline!

Lill: Hello David! Thanks for taking the time to ask my opinion. Let's get started!

RNO: In our first interview, I asked you about lying and deceiving. You gave an answer that ended by saying you really didn't have to lie (before your first time being voted out) because the others in Morgan had the majority vote. Then you added, "If I had lasted longer, who is to say I wouldn't have warmed up to what this game actually is and that is lying, cheating, and stealing." Of course, at the time we, the viewers, didn't know that you would come back, so it was a nice little clue that we missed. Still, do you feel that you "warmed up" to that part of the game, or that you just found you had to do it to stick around?

Lill: Oh yes, did I ever warm up to the actual reason and the logistics of this game. While sitting out of the game for the first time, I talked to Ryan Shoulders about how the game was played and what we needed to have done to stay in the game. Ryan is what I would call an expert in this game. He gave me his views on how this game should be played and what we did wrong. I remembered what he said even though we had no idea that we would be voting two people back into the game.

I did what I had to do because I didn't want to blow the second chance that three people gave me to enter into this game. I did it for my family mostly but I did it because I was peeved about being voted out.

It's an honor to be voted out because you're strong, you're too competitive, or people are afraid of what you'll do in winning challenges. I was voted out because I was old and expendable. That would make anyone go back with a stronger attitude...

RNO: Also in our first interview, I asked if you felt you represented the Scouts well. You said that it was just a game and you did the best you could. Obviously, a lot changed after you came back in and by the end of it you definitely seemed to regret having worn the uniform. Do you think your actions reflected upon the Scouts at all, or do you think most people watching understood it was a game?

Lill: I get so much email, letters, calls and just meeting people on the street who sing my praises and tell me how proud the way I handled myself. Then there is a very few who just sends comments on a website or fan mail that are appalled by my so call bad behavior.

For example: One woman said she wouldn't put her child in scouting because of me. I wrote back and said that if she was going to base her child raising decisions on a reality TV show such as Survivor, then it's her that needs the help, not I. I stand by that greatly.

Repeat after me, "it's just a game, it's just a game, it's just a game," and I'll add to that, "it's not real life and we aren't really like that in real life!"

RNO: Still, it appears that some of the jurors really held the whole Scout uniform thing against you since you did find it necessary to lie sometimes. Do you think you unfairly lost votes at the end because of this, or did it really not matter in the grand scheme of things?

Lill: I was told that being an Outcast I wouldn't have gotten the votes at the end. I took that to heart and understand where there were coming from. The only decision I had to make was do I take Jon whose lifestyle I didn't approve of or do I take Sandra who is a loving mother, devoted Army wife and who never had her own home because the traveling she had to do with her family. I prayed about this and the choice was simple. It had to be Sandra.

As far as the uniform and why I didn't get the votes. Like Jeff pointed out, "why would you hold Lill at a different level of honesty than say an electrician, a lawyer, or a mother?"

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